The big government, tax and spend, liberty stealing, Tories have been up to their old tricks again. When an argument does not go their way they throw out a race card expecting that everybody will run and hide and not defend themselves. Well this Patriot for one, has had enough of the lies and I am going to say my piece. To start with here is a video by a "Representative" from the State of Tennessee making the charge....
I am going to go through the charges he makes and state my opinion.
1) Tea Party People are kind of, without robes and hoods, they have shown a very hardcore angry side of America that is against any type of diversity.
A) You start the conversation calling Tea Party members of the KKK. Great start by calling Tea Partiers racist without any foundation or basis of truth whatsoever. Democrats, by the way have a leader, who was an active member and Grand Wizard of the KKK in Robert Byrd.
A small portion of your sentence I actually agree with:"Angry side of America". We are angry we are angry that our elected officials (ie: you) will not listen to what we are telling you. You work for us.
Then you state that we are "against any type of diversity". You are flat out wrong. Everybody in this country came from another country, another culture. We have melded together to make an American culture. Some people came to this country willingly some came as slaves. But they all have become Americans. It is funny to me that anybody can make a statement that we (Tea Party people) or any group in America could be against diversity. This is the most diverse country in the World. How can you be against diversity when you are part of such a diverse place?
2) "And we saw opposition to African Americans, hostility toward gays, hostility to anybody who wasn't just, you know, a clone of the George Wallace's fan club."
A) When did you see that? I have been to Tea Parties and have never seen that. I am going to assume that you are talking about the incidents after the vote on the Health Care bill. I have never seen any evidence of any hostility. There were 1,000's of cameras and phones at those events and the only picture I have seen was one of a man yelling at a Congressman. He was yelling because you folks on Capitol Hill don't listen. Even with the yelling you still didn't listen. I saw no hostility. I saw people they elected ignoring them while they took bribes for votes.
3) "I'm afraid they have taken over the Republican Party"
A) Why are you afraid? Are you just afraid because you might get voted out of office? Last I checked you are not a Republican so why would it make you afraid? If what you say is true and the Tea Party people are a bunch of angry racists, then don't you think the majority of people in America would be discounting Tea Party opinion and you would get to be easily re-elected? No you are afraid because you know that the Tea Party movement is based on moral values and the majority of people align closer to the Tea Party than to the Democrats. You are afraid you have woken "a sleeping giant".
4) "I think it's cultural and these people are being led by the nose and they're being led and it's just to be against Barack Obama and Rahm Emanuel and the different people, the diversity that's exhibited in this present White House."
A) Are we being led? I saw no leader at the last Tea Party, what I saw was people who are angry with their elected leaders policies. It has never been about the race of the President. It is about our elected leaders forcing legislation through Congress against the will of the majority of the people. It is about a culture of corruption that is ever present in the White House. It's about a President that hires tax cheats to head the IRS. Hires known Communists, such as Van Jones. It's about a President that makes 60 speeches about a health care bill, that we do not want, while saying that we do not understand what is in the bill. It's about giving our hard earned money away in stimulus and Tarp laws that do not stimulate. It is about a Congressmen that don't have the courage to look their constituents in the eye and tell them why they voted for any legislation (yeah that's you Congressman Salazar). That is what it is about.
5) "and it could've been about any issue, it could be immigration, it could be cap and trade, whatever it is that could get them off"
A) Tea Partiers are not mad about "any issue" we are mad about every issue. We will fight socialism at all fronts. We do not want our Constitution trampled on.
Do I see a sexual connotation in your quote? Humm...
6) "And they will push them to whatever levers it is, and they just, their world is changing, and they don't understand it. They don't like it."
A) What I don't understand is that last sentence.
7) Question: Are the Republicans "egging" them on? "Unquestionably they are."
A) My answer to that is good, about time Republicans started acting like Conservatives.
8) "Rep." Cohen thinks that a gathering on the steps by Americans using their First Amendment Rights is a sad scene. (I abbreviated the story for times sake)
A) What is sad is that you are elected officials that will not listen to their constituents and vote accordingly, so the protest is even necessary.
9) In the story "Rep." Cohen said that the gathering on the steps of the Capitol was like "Kristallnacht".
A) This is a very offensive to me, a tea party person. In this statement he calls the Tea Party movement a bunch of Nazi's who murder and arrest Jews, destroy Jewish property and synagogues. Who is the extremest in this conversation? Who is inciting violence? We are not. It's the idiot congressman trying to get Tea Party people to "act up". This reminds me of the two school yard kids having an argument and one is obviously losing so they call the other one stupid! and walk off pouting. Except this time he is calling me and my family murdering Nazi's.
10) The "Congressman" was asked if the Tea Party could be "cured" if Republicans could have one person say that the Tea Party is ridiculous. He response it that the Republicans are afraid of the Tea Party people.
A) My answer is: good. Be afraid Republicans. Be afraid Democrats. Fear is a good. Maybe you will actually listen to the people that elected you. Our power is our vote and we will use it in November.
Here's another video with a little common sense...
I am going to go through the charges he makes and state my opinion.
1) Tea Party People are kind of, without robes and hoods, they have shown a very hardcore angry side of America that is against any type of diversity.
A) You start the conversation calling Tea Party members of the KKK. Great start by calling Tea Partiers racist without any foundation or basis of truth whatsoever. Democrats, by the way have a leader, who was an active member and Grand Wizard of the KKK in Robert Byrd.
A small portion of your sentence I actually agree with:"Angry side of America". We are angry we are angry that our elected officials (ie: you) will not listen to what we are telling you. You work for us.
Then you state that we are "against any type of diversity". You are flat out wrong. Everybody in this country came from another country, another culture. We have melded together to make an American culture. Some people came to this country willingly some came as slaves. But they all have become Americans. It is funny to me that anybody can make a statement that we (Tea Party people) or any group in America could be against diversity. This is the most diverse country in the World. How can you be against diversity when you are part of such a diverse place?
2) "And we saw opposition to African Americans, hostility toward gays, hostility to anybody who wasn't just, you know, a clone of the George Wallace's fan club."
A) When did you see that? I have been to Tea Parties and have never seen that. I am going to assume that you are talking about the incidents after the vote on the Health Care bill. I have never seen any evidence of any hostility. There were 1,000's of cameras and phones at those events and the only picture I have seen was one of a man yelling at a Congressman. He was yelling because you folks on Capitol Hill don't listen. Even with the yelling you still didn't listen. I saw no hostility. I saw people they elected ignoring them while they took bribes for votes.
3) "I'm afraid they have taken over the Republican Party"
A) Why are you afraid? Are you just afraid because you might get voted out of office? Last I checked you are not a Republican so why would it make you afraid? If what you say is true and the Tea Party people are a bunch of angry racists, then don't you think the majority of people in America would be discounting Tea Party opinion and you would get to be easily re-elected? No you are afraid because you know that the Tea Party movement is based on moral values and the majority of people align closer to the Tea Party than to the Democrats. You are afraid you have woken "a sleeping giant".
4) "I think it's cultural and these people are being led by the nose and they're being led and it's just to be against Barack Obama and Rahm Emanuel and the different people, the diversity that's exhibited in this present White House."
A) Are we being led? I saw no leader at the last Tea Party, what I saw was people who are angry with their elected leaders policies. It has never been about the race of the President. It is about our elected leaders forcing legislation through Congress against the will of the majority of the people. It is about a culture of corruption that is ever present in the White House. It's about a President that hires tax cheats to head the IRS. Hires known Communists, such as Van Jones. It's about a President that makes 60 speeches about a health care bill, that we do not want, while saying that we do not understand what is in the bill. It's about giving our hard earned money away in stimulus and Tarp laws that do not stimulate. It is about a Congressmen that don't have the courage to look their constituents in the eye and tell them why they voted for any legislation (yeah that's you Congressman Salazar). That is what it is about.
5) "and it could've been about any issue, it could be immigration, it could be cap and trade, whatever it is that could get them off"
A) Tea Partiers are not mad about "any issue" we are mad about every issue. We will fight socialism at all fronts. We do not want our Constitution trampled on.
Do I see a sexual connotation in your quote? Humm...
6) "And they will push them to whatever levers it is, and they just, their world is changing, and they don't understand it. They don't like it."
A) What I don't understand is that last sentence.
7) Question: Are the Republicans "egging" them on? "Unquestionably they are."
A) My answer to that is good, about time Republicans started acting like Conservatives.
8) "Rep." Cohen thinks that a gathering on the steps by Americans using their First Amendment Rights is a sad scene. (I abbreviated the story for times sake)
A) What is sad is that you are elected officials that will not listen to their constituents and vote accordingly, so the protest is even necessary.
9) In the story "Rep." Cohen said that the gathering on the steps of the Capitol was like "Kristallnacht".
A) This is a very offensive to me, a tea party person. In this statement he calls the Tea Party movement a bunch of Nazi's who murder and arrest Jews, destroy Jewish property and synagogues. Who is the extremest in this conversation? Who is inciting violence? We are not. It's the idiot congressman trying to get Tea Party people to "act up". This reminds me of the two school yard kids having an argument and one is obviously losing so they call the other one stupid! and walk off pouting. Except this time he is calling me and my family murdering Nazi's.
10) The "Congressman" was asked if the Tea Party could be "cured" if Republicans could have one person say that the Tea Party is ridiculous. He response it that the Republicans are afraid of the Tea Party people.
A) My answer is: good. Be afraid Republicans. Be afraid Democrats. Fear is a good. Maybe you will actually listen to the people that elected you. Our power is our vote and we will use it in November.
Here's another video with a little common sense...
Todd, I'm a little confused about your use of the word "Tories". According to Wikipedia:
ReplyDelete"In the United Kingdom, after 1832 and supersession of the Tory Party by the Conservative Party "Tory" has become shorthand for a member of the Conservative Party or for the party in general,. Many Conservatives still call themselves "Tory" to differentiate themselves from opponents. "
Can you clarify this?
Thanks..John
The Torrie's I was referring to was the Tories in the American Colonies in 1773 (the time of the Boston Tea Party). These Tories were loyal to the British crown.
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